What Happened to the Mayans?

The Mayan Calendar ends on December 21, 2012 at 11:11 GMT. The Dresden Codex was used to interpret the Mayan Calendar end date. Did the Mayans predict that a great flood will cause the end of the world on December 21, 2012? Some people argue that the Mayans only meant there would be a change in consciousness and the Mayan Calendar will just start over again.
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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby isomer13 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:56 pm

sirfrankalot wrote: and btw this country was built by religious people, many inventers "intelectuals" were avid believers in God.

That means nothing. There were many who didn't believe in a god as well.

If Albert Einstein had believed that purple gremlins lived in his underwear drawer would that mean we should believe that as well?

No.

(Einstein didn't believe that, btw)

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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby Typhon1 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:46 am

BuckyOHare wrote:
sirfrankalot wrote: if everyone were true believers there would be no violence. God is about peace if you'd take time to read the bible


You've never taken the time to read the Old Testament have you? Perhaps you should before you preach to the rest of us.


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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby openmind » Wed May 11, 2011 4:03 am

Typhon1 wrote:
BuckyOHare wrote:
sirfrankalot wrote: if everyone were true believers there would be no violence. God is about peace if you'd take time to read the bible


You've never taken the time to read the Old Testament have you? Perhaps you should before you preach to the rest of us.


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And some people don't believe in religious texts, so while I agree people should be educated on them, it doesn't mean that they are wrong. You are supposed to only be aware of the Old Testament but follow the New Testament in every church I've ever been in. My belief is, unless it was written by HIM, I can't believe it. Humans are infamous for using religion to control their people, thats why things seem so much more peaceful in the New one compared to the old one. I don't believe in anyone except HIM/God but, I will not call him Jesus, Allah,Buddha,or Krishna because as far as we know, he is all of these. To be a believer, to me, means to never fully understand because he is in fact greater than us all. I don't believe in predestiny, I believe in karma which means you are responsible for what you do and believe so if humanity ends in 2012, it'd be because of our own mistakes, not because HE fortold. I believe we are being given a chance to right our wrongs but, alas, as I'm sure he is well aware, we are an imperfect society built on disagreement. People wonder why he's not coming down and saving them? If I were him, I would steer clear of this place too. We are failed science experiments who will hopefully learn in our afterlife to right our wrongs. Fact is, we're all gonna die and instead of worrying about 2012, everyone should worry about RIGHT NOW because you could die at any moment. Anyways, to sum it all up focus on the here and now and worry about 2012 when it gets here.
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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby Dom » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:26 pm

Personaly i don't believe that Dec 21 2012 will be the end of the world. But i did have a thought. Has anyone considered the fact that we have never found solid evidence of 'the missing link' and combined this with the theory that there have been several civilisations that have lived before us? Like someone said 3000BC. Not that im 100% sure about that..
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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby Typhon1 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:55 am

Dom wrote:Personaly i don't believe that Dec 21 2012 will be the end of the world. But i did have a thought. Has anyone considered the fact that we have never found solid evidence of 'the missing link' and combined this with the theory that there have been several civilisations that have lived before us? Like someone said 3000BC. Not that im 100% sure about that..


'The missing link' between what?
If you mean civilisations such as the Egyptians/Babylonians/Assyrians/Greeks/Romans/Inca etc then yes. However if you mean Atlantis/Lemuria and various other 'lost' civilisations of the Ancients then no! They are in the realm of Harry Potter/Conan/Dorian Hawkmoon/the Chronicles of Amber.
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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby Roman_DeWebb » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:02 pm

OK. One subject at a time... as far as the Mayans, there were actually 4 major, and different groups of people in, what now encompasses an area from Southern Texas, across to Southern Arizona, and all the way down into South America, from Peru across to Colombia. It is generally accepted that the Toltecs, who lived across the Northern part of the aforementioned area, were the first builders of large structures, and they built some very impressive, and sometimes strange structures, carved from solid rock and on a massive scale.
The Toltecs had mostly disappeared as a culture when the Olmecs next rose to prominance as builders, and it is possible that their culture was established by the Toltecs, except that the building style and general cultural practices were very different. The Olmecs largely occupied the area Northwest of the Yucatan Penninsula, where Cancun is located, known as Llanura Costera Del Golfo, and into the middle of Mexico, but the area Northwest of Cancun, along the Gulf of Mexico, was quite swampy, and not well suited for occupation. Even so, large metropolises were built there.
The Olmec cities appear to have had terra cotta drainage systems, except that most of the pieces were placed with the channel down, which makes little sense for carrying water. The Olmecs had abandoned their cities by the time the Spanish arrived.
The Aztecs built on, and controled, the area from Southwestern Mexico, down to the Sierra Madre Del Sur, and were the longest surviving culture. They built the most extravagant and intricately carved structures, and it was this group that was was in place when Cortez arrived and all but destroyed their culture.
The Maya posessed the largest area of any of the civilizations, and built the most impressively constructed stone buildings, but are most notable for the massive, perfectly round stone balls, which can be found all over Central and Northern South America, to this day. I have actually seen mountain peaks, jutting out from the dense jungle, with three gigantic stone balls together with a fourth on top of these.
How or why someone placed these solid rock spheres on a mountain peak, in the middle of the jungle is anybody's guess, but the largest concentration of them is in Costa Rica, and they are scattered about in a haphazard manner. There is one of these in front of the Capital Building, in Mexico City, which is 25 feet in diameter, and perfectly round, which cannot be duplicated today with modern technology.
It appears that all of these cultures were fully aware of the rotation of the Earth, the positions of all the visible stars and planets on any given day of the year, and the precursor of our modern calender system. Ours is Accurate to .052 and theirs was accurate to .087 ...pretty impressive for a suposedly backwards culture.
The large wheel-like stone which has the Mayan calender carved on it, is the only one of it's kind, so far discovered, but it is suspected that all four cultures had identical calenders, as time seemed to be the most important thing to all of them.
The Mayan stone calender is based on periods of time, consisting of Ka'tuns, which represents 7,200 days, which is the time that Jupiter and Saturn return to the same spot in the sky, after a synodic Cycle, or cycle of the Sun. Twenty Ka'tuns formed a Bak'tun, which was 144,000 days, or 395 years, as the Aztecs explained it to the Jesuit priests who accompanied Cortez.
The base, or beginning date of the Mayan Calender wheel is August 11, 3114 B.C., and it covers a period of 5,125.37 years, or what the Mayans called "a Sun", and the Aztecs told the Jesuit priests that they were near the end of the 5th Sun. Each Sun had ended with a catastrophe of Biblical scale, such as floods, ice-ages, and fire from the sky.
The Aztecs told the Jesuits that they had not built the cities that they still occupied, but that their ancestors had built them, and they no longer had the skills nor knowledge to accomplish such a task. In fact, many of the cities of all 4 cultures, had been all but abandoned by the time the Spanish arrived, and a large number were already taken over by the jungle.
The Aztecs and Mayans did have written languages, mostly recorded in book form on folding papyrus pages, which folded like an accordian, but when the Jesuit Priests learned to read these books, they destroyed all that they could find as blasphemous, works written by the Devil, himself. One Priest managed to save 4 of these books, which tell the story of a small group of people who survived a great flood at the end of the last Sun, by getting into a massive tree that had fallen over in the jungle, and rotted out to form a large dugout canoe, of sorts, accompanied by many animals of the region.
Cortez's soldiers began killing many of the Aztecs who tried to stop the Priests from burning the books, and with their superior fighting skills and weapons, wiped out thousands of the Aztec people.
Upon hearing of this, the Maya began evacuating their cities, closest to the Aztec cities, thinking that the Gods had returned and were destroying the Aztecs in punishment for some offense, and the Maya wanted nothing to do with it. After the Aztec were decimated, or enslaved, the Spanish began spreading out, trying to find El Dorado, Cibola, and Quivira: Three of the seven so-far-mythical cities of gold, purported to be in the ares occupied by the 4 cultures, and the Maya abandoned all of their remaining cities and fled into the jungles.
None of the cities of gold were ever found, and few of the Maya, as well, and there are possibly still a few small tribes of their decendants still living, well hidden, in the vast jungles of South America.
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The Maya were still occupying quite a few of their cities when
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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby Roman_DeWebb » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:08 pm

To address the contention that Barak Obama is the Anti-Christ... this is highly unlikely, as he was not supposed to win the elections, but was meant to set a precedent for future elections, for African-Americans and women to become President.
John McCain was supposed to be the next President, after George W. and would have been the puppet of the Republican party, the Bush Family, and, yes... The New World Order.
The members of all the Unions of The United States, being pro-Democrat, upset the plans by all voting on straight Democratic tickets, which shifted the balance of power away from the Republican party. As a way of punishing America for this, the upper echelons of the major financial institutions closed their doors, and divided up all the money, to cause the near-collapse of our economy. The only thing that prevented this was the stripping of Social Security funds to bolster the downhill slide, and Warren Buffet buying most of the securities of AIG, which drastically reduced the profits that the top people of that company expected to get as their cuts.
These "top dogs", and I mean that literally, saw a chance to make up this deficit by accepting the bail-out money from the Government, and then going down to Texas to divy the loot, but a quick-thinking hotel worker, at the "hideout", placed a video camera in the room and recorded the whole thing. Did any of these "imbezelers" ever see the inside of a prison...? I think not...
Our current President was sworn into a veritable "poop-storm", and has mostly been flailing around in it, trying to dodge the stinkiest pieces, which I don't think the AC would have to contend with. Besides, he would be much more popular, and better-looking than he currently is, if he were "The Beast".
The people behind the New World Order, have punished the Unions particularly hard for throwing a monkeywrench into the works of their "plan B", after McCain had the Whitehouse doors slammed in his face, by causing the reduction of Auto-workers, and stopping planned projects, which the Union workers were counting on to keep them working. Many have lost everything, which is the ultimate goal of the NWO, so that everyone works for them, and we make $300.00 per week, but they own the house that we live in, and charge us $1205.00 a month in rent, so that we are constantly going in the hole, deeper and deeper...
Those behind the NWO, are the richest people in the world, but you will never see their name on any list of such. You may see their names on lists of the membership of such organizations as "The Skull And Bones", "The Builderburgs", and the 7 members of "The Illuminati", If such a group actually exists, and if you could find a list of names for any of those groups.
Sure, we all know that both ex-Presidents Bush are members of "The Skull And Bones", as well as many other prominent Politicians in Washington, which is a frightening thought... well, to me, anyway...
I don't know who the probable Anti-Christ is, but I am comforted by the knowledge that if He is here already, then so is Jesus reborn, and among us, but where those around the AC know who he is, and will protect and groom him for his role, no one will know who Jesus is until the appointed time. The Catholic Church actually has Priests out looking for both of them, as if they could change things by finding either.
I'll probably be killed for this, but what the heck... It'll be worth it. LOL
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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby fuzoid » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:19 am

Roman_DeWebb wrote:To address the contention that Barak Obama is the Anti-Christ... this is highly unlikely, as he was not supposed to win the elections, but was meant to set a precedent for future elections, for African-Americans and women to become President.
John McCain was supposed to be the next President, after George W. and would have been the puppet of the Republican party, the Bush Family, and, yes... The New World Order.
The members of all the Unions of The United States, being pro-Democrat, upset the plans by all voting on straight Democratic tickets, which shifted the balance of power away from the Republican party. As a way of punishing America for this, the upper echelons of the major financial institutions closed their doors, and divided up all the money, to cause the near-collapse of our economy. The only thing that prevented this was the stripping of Social Security funds to bolster the downhill slide, and Warren Buffet buying most of the securities of AIG, which drastically reduced the profits that the top people of that company expected to get as their cuts.
These "top dogs", and I mean that literally, saw a chance to make up this deficit by accepting the bail-out money from the Government, and then going down to Texas to divy the loot, but a quick-thinking hotel worker, at the "hideout", placed a video camera in the room and recorded the whole thing. Did any of these "imbezelers" ever see the inside of a prison...? I think not...
Our current President was sworn into a veritable "poop-storm", and has mostly been flailing around in it, trying to dodge the stinkiest pieces, which I don't think the AC would have to contend with. Besides, he would be much more popular, and better-looking than he currently is, if he were "The Beast".
The people behind the New World Order, have punished the Unions particularly hard for throwing a monkeywrench into the works of their "plan B", after McCain had the Whitehouse doors slammed in his face, by causing the reduction of Auto-workers, and stopping planned projects, which the Union workers were counting on to keep them working. Many have lost everything, which is the ultimate goal of the NWO, so that everyone works for them, and we make $300.00 per week, but they own the house that we live in, and charge us $1205.00 a month in rent, so that we are constantly going in the hole, deeper and deeper...
Those behind the NWO, are the richest people in the world, but you will never see their name on any list of such. You may see their names on lists of the membership of such organizations as "The Skull And Bones", "The Builderburgs", and the 7 members of "The Illuminati", If such a group actually exists, and if you could find a list of names for any of those groups.
Sure, we all know that both ex-Presidents Bush are members of "The Skull And Bones", as well as many other prominent Politicians in Washington, which is a frightening thought... well, to me, anyway...
I don't know who the probable Anti-Christ is, but I am comforted by the knowledge that if He is here already, then so is Jesus reborn, and among us, but where those around the AC know who he is, and will protect and groom him for his role, no one will know who Jesus is until the appointed time. The Catholic Church actually has Priests out looking for both of them, as if they could change things by finding either.
I'll probably be killed for this, but what the heck... It'll be worth it. LOL
Roman


Killed? Highly unlikely. Flamed? More than likely.

You had me agreeing with your last post and then.....well.....I read this one. I'm sure you have all the evidence to support your NWO conspiracy nonsense? For the record, this is the 21st century, not surfdom Russia, so I wouldn't count on the general population willingly conceding their freedom to a few with the wealth and power. Revolutions occur for less reasons than what you portray above. And with the USA being one of the most armed nations in the world, you can count on the people taking up arms.

Since your belief in an Anti-Christ is part of your faith, I'm going to leave it alone. But when you make specific claims as you have above, you had better be prepared to support it. So humor me, present all your supporting evidence for the coming NWO. Oh, and since Obama did win the presidency, it's obvious he was supposed to win.

Was your crystal ball a bit murky during the 2000 elections?
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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby BuckyOHare » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:33 pm

Roman_DeWebb wrote:To address the contention that Barak Obama is the Anti-Christ... this is highly unlikely, as he was not supposed to win the elections, but was meant to set a precedent for future elections, for African-Americans and women to become President.


How would Obama have set a precedent for African-American men becoming President if he didnt actually win? To set a precedent for something, it must actually happen, so for example, Obama runs for President and wins, he sets the precedent for African-Americans to become President.


John McCain was supposed to be the next President, after George W. and would have been the puppet of the Republican party, the Bush Family, and, yes... The New World Order.


Can you elaborate on "McCain was supposed" to win? How so? Are you hinting that the election was fixed in some way?

The members of all the Unions of The United States, being pro-Democrat, upset the plans by all voting on straight Democratic tickets, which shifted the balance of power away from the Republican party.


This isnt entirely accurate. If you review the polling statistics provided by Peter Hart for the AFL-CIO you will note that only 60% of unionised voters backed Obama, not exactly the "block vote" you refer to. This is only a 9% increase in the numbers of non-unionised voters who declared for Obama.

As a way of punishing America for this, the upper echelons of the major financial institutions closed their doors, and divided up all the money, to cause the near-collapse of our economy.


Correct me if I am wrong (which I am not) but Lehman Brothers went under in early September. This was 2 months prior to the election. how therefore could the institutions punish voters for something that had not actually happened yet?
Not only this but your description of what led to the financial crash is nowhere near the reality of what actually happened, but lets not let the facts spoil a good conspiracy hey?
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Re: What Happened to the Mayans?

Unread postby 1 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:22 am

The myans were studying the path of the sun over a period of time and found that in 2012 that for the first time in 13000 years it is going directly into the center of the galexy the last time that happened there was a major climate shift and it wiped out 100's of species
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