This is the hottest year ever in our history and its technically not even summer. It will be worse next year with the sun reaching its peak. Natural disasters and sea levels rising, buckle up for the ride.

wolf wrote:This is the hottest year ever in our history and its technically not even summer. It will be worse next year with the sun reaching its peak. Natural disasters and sea levels rising, buckle up for the ride.

That remains to be seen. http://www.noaa.gov/ We've only kept reliable and accurate records of temps and weather for about the last 100 years. For example, we now know that the area of Arizona had been in a 300 year drought which ended sometime in the 1800's.

But we don't know the temps during those years.

So, to say its the hottest year "ever", really means in just the last 100 years. Could it be the hottest year in the past 100 years? Sure. But, its only speculation to say its the hottest year ever, and if it is, it doesn't mean next year will be worse.

You might want to look up something called Paleoclimatology, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology , and while you're at it, Paleoseismology(for the earthquakers) too.

There is a wealth of information available on the internet if you just take the time to search it out. The trick is knowing what is based in fact and reality, and everything else.



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isomer13 wrote:

wolf wrote:This is the hottest year ever in our history and its technically not even summer. It will be worse next year with the sun reaching its peak. Natural disasters and sea levels rising, buckle up for the ride.

That remains to be seen. http://www.noaa.gov/ We've only kept reliable and accurate records of temps and weather for about the last 100 years. For example, we now know that the area of Arizona had been in a 300 year drought which ended sometime in the 1800's.

But we don't know the temps during those years.

So, to say its the hottest year "ever", really means in just the last 100 years. Could it be the hottest year in the past 100 years? Sure. But, its only speculation to say its the hottest year ever, and if it is, it doesn't mean next year will be worse.

You might want to look up something called Paleoclimatology, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology , and while you're at it, Paleoseismology(for the earthquakers) too.

There is a wealth of information available on the internet if you just take the time to search it out. The trick is knowing what is based in fact and reality, and everything else.



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Yea, i meant to say in our recorded history, not hottest year EVER. my bad.

If the ocean continues to heat up, expect more volcanic activity and all sorts of natural disasters.

wolf wrote:If the ocean continues to heat up, expect more volcanic activity and all sorts of natural disasters.

I don't see how the oceans heating up can contribute to an increase in volcanic activity. While a warming ocean can increase the number and intensity of hurricanes, as well as possibly disrupting the food chain for marine life, what other sorts of disasters do you have in mind? Because a warming ocean will have no impact on volcanic activity.

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wolf wrote:If the ocean continues to heat up, expect more volcanic activity and all sorts of natural disasters.

I don't see how the oceans heating up can contribute to an increase in volcanic activity. While a warming ocean can increase the number and intensity of hurricanes, as well as possibly disrupting the food chain for marine life, what other sorts of disasters do you have in mind? Because a warming ocean will have no impact on volcanic activity.

Just expect more this year =] that's all you gotta know. mount pelee will be next.

wolf wrote:

fuzoid wrote:

wolf wrote:If the ocean continues to heat up, expect more volcanic activity and all sorts of natural disasters.

I don't see how the oceans heating up can contribute to an increase in volcanic activity. While a warming ocean can increase the number and intensity of hurricanes, as well as possibly disrupting the food chain for marine life, what other sorts of disasters do you have in mind? Because a warming ocean will have no impact on volcanic activity.

Just expect more this year =] that's all you gotta know. mount pelee will be next.

Oh, so you're one of those prophets: say that x is gonna happen with absolute certainty, and then refuse to explain how you know or how it's even possible.

wolf wrote:

fuzoid wrote:

wolf wrote:If the ocean continues to heat up, expect more volcanic activity and all sorts of natural disasters.

I don't see how the oceans heating up can contribute to an increase in volcanic activity. While a warming ocean can increase the number and intensity of hurricanes, as well as possibly disrupting the food chain for marine life, what other sorts of disasters do you have in mind? Because a warming ocean will have no impact on volcanic activity.

Just expect more this year =] that's all you gotta know. mount pelee will be next.

Uh, no, that's not all I need to know! You made a [un]scientific claim and need to support it. Personally, I don't care what you choose to believe! But when you attempt to relate science to your dooms day prophecies, you do need to offer up the scientific evidence. If you can't then you would be better of just claiming that you believe that there will be an increase in volcanic activity. This I would have no issue with! But I still may ask why you believe this. Speaking of which....

Since you specifically claim it will be Mount Pelee, explain why you make this claim. What's the evidence behind it? Again, I don't care what you choose to believe, but you made a specific claim and need to support it.

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Here's the thing... The sun, being more active than has previously been seen, in modern recorded history, is now an indisputable fact. Flares and explosions, which have been, and are at this very moment, being recorded and documented.
As a result, the atmosphere, oceans, and yes, the very ground we stand on are being heated. The ozone layer being thinner, and magnetic poles moving have reduced the Earth's ability to protect itself, and us, from the solar effects.
Many dormant volcanoes are now showing signs of waking up, Mount Vesuvius being one of them, which will add more heat, above and below the surface, and that won't be a good thing either.
In fact, volcanologists are bracing for another major eruption of Vesuvius, and are hoping that the indicators will prove accurate, that there will not be an explosive eruption, but the truth is, they can't say anything for sure, and they are the experts.
I seem to recall being scoffed at by posting that a major solar flare might be a "likely candidate" for what may occur on December 21st, 2012 and told that the sun was at it's most dormant stage in known history, and the chances that this could be the culprit, were non-existant. Well, welcome to the reality where we don't know everything about everything...
... And by we, I am not necessarily talking about myself, although I don't know everything,.. and don't mind admitting this.
What I do mind is some self-proclaimed know-it-all, who prefers to ridicule others to make themselves seem superior... but, it only seems that way...
Wolf, if you have some inside information about this, or were "told" that certain events are coming, it is damned decent of you to pass this information along, at the risk of being ridiculed. There have been many famous, infamous and unknown people who have made predictions that were proven correct.
Thanks! I will be keeping an eye on Pelee now, although I probably won't be around there when it does go off, nor will I be anywhere near Vesuvius in the near future...
I suggest that, if you don't know how to hunt, fish, raise produce or ride a horse, you might want to take some crash-courses in these skills, very soon...
Roman

Roman_DeWebb wrote:Here's the thing... The sun, being more active than has previously been seen, in modern recorded history, is now an indisputable fact. Flares and explosions, which have been, and are at this very moment, being recorded and documented.

Yet, ironically, I can find no such evidence! I regularly monitor spaceweather.com and they are strangely quiet as well. The closest I can come to what you're describing is a blog about a peer reviewed paper that claims solar activity since the last ice age is a larger contributor to global warming than originally suspected. Yet they are strangely quiet about the sun being more active than previously seen. In fact, when viewing their graph of solar activity, it appears the mid 1950's was more active than today. You can read it for yourself here: http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2011/ ... ivity.html

As a result, the atmosphere, oceans, and yes, the very ground we stand on are being heated.

As a result of what? All you did was make a statement with no supporting evidence! Since you're claiming the above is the result of increased solar activity and that it's more active now than previously recorded, you need to support it with evidence.

The ozone layer being thinner, and magnetic poles moving have reduced the Earth's ability to protect itself, and us, from the solar effects.

Do you have any evidence that the ozone layer is thinning? Also, the earth's magnetic poles have nothing to do with protecting us from solar/cosmic rays, it's the earth's magnetic field which is generated by the dynamo effect of the earth's inner and outer cores. It has nothing to do with magnetic north or south.

Many dormant volcanoes are now showing signs of waking up, Mount Vesuvius being one of them, which will add more heat, above and below the surface, and that won't be a good thing either.

Again, where is your evidence? When I last visited Naples in 1979, Vesuvius was active, or at least smoke was billowing from its crater, which means it was already awake. And the same is true for Mt. Etna on the island of Sicily. So what evidence do you have that shows dormant volcanoes are showing signs of waking up, especially when they're already awake!?

In fact, volcanologists are bracing for another major eruption of Vesuvius, and are hoping that the indicators will prove accurate, that there will not be an explosive eruption, but the truth is, they can't say anything for sure, and they are the experts.

For as long as I can remember volcanologists have been worried about Vesuvius, not just recently. And since predicting eruptions, or there severity, is too unreliable, I know of no volcanologist that is going to lay their reputation on the line by claiming an eruption is imminent.

I seem to recall being scoffed at by posting that a major solar flare might be a "likely candidate" for what may occur on December 21st, 2012 and told that the sun was at it's most dormant stage in known history, and the chances that this could be the culprit, were non-existant. Well, welcome to the reality where we don't know everything about everything...

Whoever told you the sun was at it's most dormant stage does not understand the suns 11 year cycles because we are actually coming out of a dormant stage and will soon be in the middle of a solar maximum. However, I also scoff at the idea of a solar flare being a likely candidate for 12/21/12 because there is no evidence that anything cataclysmic is going to occur on this date, only conspiracy theories, which you are contributing to! Welcome to reality indeed!

... And by we, I am not necessarily talking about myself, although I don't know everything,.. and don't mind admitting this.

No one knows everything, so you're in good company.

What I do mind is some self-proclaimed know-it-all, who prefers to ridicule others to make themselves seem superior... but, it only seems that way...

And what I mind are individuals who go around throwing out nonsense 2012 conspiracy theories with no evidence to back any of it! All it does is unnecessarily scare the crap out of little kids and those that don’t know any better who come to this site for answers. I’ve actually read kids post that since the world is going to end soon anyway, why bother with their school work or even go on living, for that matter! And it is people like you who stoke those flames. Granted, the ones who talk about killing themselves probably have other issues going on. But reading a post about how the majority of the world will suffer and die may be just the push they needed to pull the trigger.

I don’t know about you but I would not want that kind of weight around my shoulders.

Wolf, if you have some inside information about this, or were "told" that certain events are coming, it is damned decent of you to pass this information along, at the risk of being ridiculed. There have been many famous, infamous and unknown people who have made predictions that were proven correct.
Thanks! I will be keeping an eye on Pelee now, although I probably won't be around there when it does go off, nor will I be anywhere near Vesuvius in the near future...

You're going to keep an eye on Mt. Pelee at the say so of someone who has yet to support their claims? What if I told you there will be a devastating earthquake in the north east of the USA without supporting my claim, would you believe me? I mean, it is a pretty vague prediction yet geologists have been warning that sooner or later a big one will hit the North East, especially the N.Y State area! And I could even stretch it a bit further by claiming it's related to 2012! Would you believe me? If not, why? If so, why?

I suggest that, if you don't know how to hunt, fish, raise produce or ride a horse, you might want to take some crash-courses in these skills, very soon...
Roman

Good advice regardless!

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