for many years we are told the end is nigh, awful horrible things dwell under our beds and in our heads. these things are true, we're born of a random occurrence and one day will be replaced by a more adaptable species. i doubt in all truthfulness that a polar shift of any great magnitude, a comet or asteroid can really be prepared for. mammoths with grass in their mouths, in the process of chewing is the best example. if you're thrown to the ground and awake
surrounded by strangeness, adapt.

I agree, I did the "Shelter in Place", but really. This is why I have always lived in high profile area, NYC, Washington, DC, LA, San Diego, etc.....
I go out like the Japanese.......a puff of smoke, a shadow on the wall

Huh, I never thought of it like that. Sure beats trying to scrabble for food in an irradiated land waiting for your body to fall apart from radiation sickness.
I live in Australia out in the bush - who the hell would want to nuke us? Reckon we might just come out of it with a few scratches tucked away down here .

G'Day Y'All,
Unfortunately 200 years ago it was the end for us Indigenous of Australia when a
sailboat with aliens came and destroyed our world.

Other Indigenous people globally were also destroyed by these aliens from another time.

But we have caught up and our culture has responded by adapting to the new environment.

Looking at our "Dreamings" (a name given to us by non-Indigenous scholars).

We decided not to tell the world about our association with 'Beings of light' that we have been
interacting with for over 60,000 years.
Still do to this day.

The 'Net' is a very remarkeable tool, which has
some information in what 'we' as Aboriginals know of another time.

Like ddd I to live remote in the 'bush' which is a normal lifestyle for us.

My Fathers TV sits on a milk crate outside with the stars above blinking twinkling and everyone
watches TV whilst the stars watch us. (and other things).

To the point though and what has been 'transcribed' to us (they not only 'think' in English).

There will be a major shift to a more spiritual realm,(not a religious one) but to achieve this

there will be many casualties globally whether by natural disasters or by 'powers that be'
concerning the overpopulation of the earth and they are concerned.

What that means is basically the human being of today in major cities globally will be
'enlightened'.

We as Indigenous Aboriginals have always been at peace with ourselves as fellow men and with the
environment.

We have our ancient laws and protocols. (Some laws recognised by local govt)

We are being 'revitalised' for the future as neccesary

We are to be given back our status, back to before the sailboats came 200 years ago.

Look us up see how we survived for over 65,000 years without the need for a religious god or

prisons, hate, greed,overpopulation,automobiles, war,.......oh the list goes on.

But we survived 200 years of phsycological and spiritual misery but the main thing is our spiritual connection
wasn't broken.

We are not in fear of our future.

And ddd we not gonna be nuked!

Grayman we are (and you) are the adaptable species.

guest I dunno where San Diego is but if I were in California I'd get the hell away from that
area. ............NOW!

Hello PG, You say some true stuff there.
I agree that your culture was a sustainable one. You all lived together here for upwards of 40 thousand years in peace, and as far as I know your beliefs didn't serve to divide you like ours have. I have serious doubts if the 'western' society could hold out nearly as long. Western culture is constantly changing, which keeps it in a perpetual state of instability. I think that is our folly.
I'd like to think the younger generations of Australians are becoming better educated about Aboriginals and their culture.
I saw a documentary years ago, in which it was stated that some of the first schools in Australia taught children that aboriginals weren't human.
Some of the things Kevin Rudd told us about during his apology speech, discusted me, like 'breeding plans' drawn up as late as the early 70's.
Well thats my guilt complex out of the way, good to meet you mate. Hope i dont come across as 'sticky sweet' or condescending
What state are you living in?
I've heard about your (what do you call them?) about spirit beings from the sky. There is a bloke called Bill Chalker who has related some of these ......as they were told to him.

We are not being nuked. Other forces of nature will bear down upon us. Australia is one place that will be sustainable, but I do also need to point out that Africa and parts of South America will also share in the substainability of Earth.. Thanks everyone for understanding my "theory" with open hearts and minds.

Love,

Lily

ddd wrote:Hello PG, You say some true stuff there.
I agree that your culture was a sustainable one. You all lived together here for upwards of 40 thousand years in peace, and as far as I know your beliefs didn't serve to divide you like ours have. I have serious doubts if the 'western' society could hold out nearly as long. Western culture is constantly changing, which keeps it in a perpetual state of instability. I think that is our folly.
I'd like to think the younger generations of Australians are becoming better educated about Aboriginals and their culture.
I saw a documentary years ago, in which it was stated that some of the first schools in Australia taught children that aboriginals weren't human.
Some of the things Kevin Rudd told us about during his apology speech, discusted me, like 'breeding plans' drawn up as late as the early 70's.
Well thats my guilt complex out of the way, good to meet you mate. Hope i dont come across as 'sticky sweet' or condescending
What state are you living in?
I've heard about your (what do you call them?) about spirit beings from the sky. There is a bloke called Bill Chalker who has related some of these ......as they were told to him.

G'day ddd,
I see you are a kind person, who share the plight of all Indigenous and have heart wihch means a true spirit.
As for myself I am an Elder (Enkarte/Nunkeri) of the Western Arrente/Anangu Pitantjatjara
peoples of Central Australia.
As you can see by my username (pine gap) thats where we live, (for now) but we and our extended family
cover most of the Western and Central deserts west and south west of Alice Springs.

Pine Gap is in our back yard where we go hunting and we have witnessed so many unusual
events for a very long time, but will not disclose anything yet, we have decided the time
is not quite right.
A number of us have been 'visited'but recently visitation have been more frequent, since the 80's.
We know we have been visited in our past by the same entities long ago in 'ancient times'.
This is in our 'Dreamings ("Tjurkrrpa") which is a sacred 'phenomena'.

Myself personally had my first visit in 1959 when I was just 7 years old along with my 2 older brothers.
We know them as 'Wandjina' which means basically 'floating' with 2 feet not touching the earth.
Some of our ceremonies,songs and dance remind us of these visits, and outside the ceremonies
we are not to devulge anything to the outside world. It is secret 'mens and 'women' business.
One of the things I can tell you is that the 'seven sisters (The plieades) is a significant part of our Tjurkurrpa.

We have the oldest extant 'religion' in the world and we still live by the Tjurrkupa.
All over the globe on different levels there is no mention of Australian Aborigines Religion
because basically it is confined to only us. We believe in a 'creator' but not a religious one.
When the sailboats came there was a mere 1m Aboriginals living on this great continent,and because we have our
sacred laws and one of these many laws is the law of 'population control' which our forefathers practised to keep
us in line with nature. For an example China's population has been between 15-60M most of the time in history,
until late Ming dynasty. Official population passed 100M around 1720, 200M in 1764, 300M
around 1790, 400M around 1834. Today there is1,330,044,544 (July 2008 est.)
This not counting other countries. How can you sustain such an amount without wars?. We did because of our laws.

Obviously no laws present.

The internet is a great tool but be aware of some who are on a journey of self ego and will
post attention getting results for that ego. As for myself I would rather be a 'service to others' mode.
It was by accident I ended up on this forum and saw a lot of interest to 'where are we going?'
and religious connotations on a belief system.
The final piece is 'us' as a species of the modern human who have many capabilities and as a collective
are able to change 'where we are going', spiritually.
Lily is correct we 'WILL NOT BE NUKED'!
To peace.
pg

This is all so fascinating. Seems to be a lot of Australians here. I'm from the U.S. From Washington state.

I agree that Nuclear war will not be the issue here. Mother Nature, God, Fate, whatever you wish to call it will be what reckons with the world, I believe.

I'm very happy I stumbled up on this board, with all of you bright people.

grayman wrote: i doubt in all truthfulness that a polar shift of any great magnitude, a comet or asteroid can really be prepared for. mammoths with grass in their mouths, in the process of chewing is the best example.

Okay, first off, while shifts is magnetic poles do and have occurred, and will present significant problems someday, mankind has and other species have survived these shifts in magnetic poles quite well, with not even a hiccup in population. Of course, they didn't have modern electronic systems, but with any kind of warning our electronic systems will be modified to deal with it.

There have not been any "pole shifts" in the sense of sudden crustal displacements. None, ever, period. It's simply physically impossible. That theory was developed by the theosophists to explain the evidence of earlier impact events. You can trace it right on back to them.

Comets and asteroids on impacting courses can be detected and deflected, and the systems to do this are being put in place. We are already capable of finding and dealing with the ones large enough to causes extinction level events, and systems for finding the smaller ones are being built. So when the fragments of Comet Schwassmann Wachmann 3 come in on the other side of the solar system in 2011 you can be sure that they will be watched.

One of the most bizarre aspects of the 2012 industry is that generally very few knew until about the 1930's how the Mayan calendar actually was linked to the European one, and that among the experts on the Mayan calendar there are a number who argue for other correlations with the European calendar, with some placing the 2012 turn at other times up to several hundred years apart. See:
http://www.mayan-calendar.com/cal_ancie ... lation.php
for an introduction to the topic.

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas

pine gap wrote: We believe in a 'creator' but not a religious one.
pg

Elsewhere you mentioned "no religious god." By "religious" do you mean Western European religions?

E.P.