The antichrist has already came and rose up from Europe, his name was Adolf Hitler. Everything that the bible speaks of has happened and will happen, buts its all metaphorically and symbolically spoken. Think about its really all just a set of ideological beliefs. The only true people that can understand this are the ones that look outside the box to see it, artists, sympathizers, humanists, and enviromentalists. First, of all Adolf Hitler, Stalin, Hussein, etc.... all of these Genocide killers since Hitler are part of satan. Heck no one even completely knows where Hitler came from, an orphanage maybe? and we never found Hitler's body, reference that in the bible sounds pretty antichrist to me out of no where and disapeared into no where and he had no real motive to do what he did really but to take over the world. Christ has already come back its called the United States and the begginings of the UN. An idea that we should all be treated equaly through democracy and no matter what we may argue about no one should cast the first stone. This idea has spread around the world while Satan is still trying to combat it (since the cold war) through genocide and through greed. Not saying that communism is antichrist just stalin. Thats it. The antichrist was already here we just dont seem to want to admit that Hitler was everything competely opposite of Jesus. Yet he was born and died in a similar manner. Their births and deaths are both very mysterious. I mean come on seriously. This idea has and is bringing us into heaven as the bible described, depending on if you read it metaphorically. Back then Heaven was SPACE. After Hitler past we went to heaven and then the Moon. Now look at us Humans we have other countries following this Idea of freedom and they are going to the moon. Science fiction is becoming a reality because through God we dreamed it. Never forget that this modern idea of freedom and democracy was based on the theories of Enlightenment.

A liitle Confused...so when is the 1000 years of peace with Jesus supposed to of happened?

"Everything that the bible speaks of has happened and will happen, buts its all metaphorically and symbolically spoken."
Wrong. Granted, there are some things that have already occured which the Bible describes, but not everything has come to pass. The Bible states that Jesus will come to rapture his people and meet them in the air. The church is still very much alive and has not gone anywhere. The Bible is also not metaphoric in its descriptions of the end times. It is the human mind that can make them metaphorically because such events are unfathomable to some that they simply say it cant be literal.

"Think about its really all just a set of ideological beliefs"
Truths, not beliefs.

"Heck no one even completely knows where Hitler came from, an orphanage maybe?"
Research is your friend.
"Adolf Hitler was born on April 20 th 1889 in Braunau-am-Inn, Austria. The town is near to the Austro-German border, and his father, Alois, worked as a customs officer on the border crossing. In 1896, his mother Klara gave birth to Adolf 's sister, Paula, who survived to outlive him.
Adolf Hitler grew up with a poor record at school and left, before completing his tuition, with an ambition to become an artist he unsuccessfully applied for admission to the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts."

"Christ has already come back its called the United States and the begginings of the UN"
So....Jesus is the United States? Jesus humbled Himself to become a man to die for our sins and be our personal savior. This is a one-on-one personal event that we can each chose to accept or deny. He did not come as a nation or to die for a nation but as a human for each one of us. The United Nations were created perhaps with the right intentions, but there have been more wars since its development after WWI. The UN has not solved the worlds problems. The battle Jesus fights has already been won! The UN represents a one world gov't which is also portrayed in the Bible, and not shown in the light of His glory.


"we just dont seem to want to admit that Hitler was everything competely opposite of Jesus"
I dont really think that is in question. It is well known and widely accepted Hitler was an evil man. Who were his false prophets? What miracles did he perform?
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
Where was this one?


"Their births and deaths are both very mysterious"
Not really. Adolf Hitler was born by a mother and father and ended up commiting suicide on April 30, 1945. No mystery there.


"Back then Heaven was SPACE"
Heaven is where God lives. God does not live on the moon.


When Jesus finally comes down to earth at His second coming, there will be judgement and then a forever peace. He will reign again. There are many significant things you have neglected to either research or accept in your statement.
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away" (Mark 13:31).

70x7 wrote:"Everything that the bible speaks of has happened and will happen, buts its all metaphorically and symbolically spoken."
Wrong. Granted, there are some things that have already occured which the Bible describes, but not everything has come to pass. The Bible states that Jesus will come to rapture his people and meet them in the air. The church is still very much alive and has not gone anywhere. The Bible is also not metaphoric in its descriptions of the end times. It is the human mind that can make them metaphorically because such events are unfathomable to some that they simply say it cant be literal.

"Think about its really all just a set of ideological beliefs"
Truths, not beliefs.

"Heck no one even completely knows where Hitler came from, an orphanage maybe?"
Research is your friend.
"Adolf Hitler was born on April 20 th 1889 in Braunau-am-Inn, Austria. The town is near to the Austro-German border, and his father, Alois, worked as a customs officer on the border crossing. In 1896, his mother Klara gave birth to Adolf 's sister, Paula, who survived to outlive him.
Adolf Hitler grew up with a poor record at school and left, before completing his tuition, with an ambition to become an artist he unsuccessfully applied for admission to the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts."

"Christ has already come back its called the United States and the begginings of the UN"
So....Jesus is the United States? Jesus humbled Himself to become a man to die for our sins and be our personal savior. This is a one-on-one personal event that we can each chose to accept or deny. He did not come as a nation or to die for a nation but as a human for each one of us. The United Nations were created perhaps with the right intentions, but there have been more wars since its development after WWI. The UN has not solved the worlds problems. The battle Jesus fights has already been won! The UN represents a one world gov't which is also portrayed in the Bible, and not shown in the light of His glory.


"we just dont seem to want to admit that Hitler was everything competely opposite of Jesus"
I dont really think that is in question. It is well known and widely accepted Hitler was an evil man. Who were his false prophets? What miracles did he perform?
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
Where was this one?


"Their births and deaths are both very mysterious"
Not really. Adolf Hitler was born by a mother and father and ended up commiting suicide on April 30, 1945. No mystery there.


"Back then Heaven was SPACE"
Heaven is where God lives. God does not live on the moon.


When Jesus finally comes down to earth at His second coming, there will be judgement and then a forever peace. He will reign again. There are many significant things you have neglected to either research or accept in your statement.
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away" (Mark 13:31).

Heaven is a metaphor for unknown or sky. Earth is a metaphor for dirt. Very interesting how people talked that way. "Heaven and earth will pass away" translation means dirt and air will become like a fog." My words will by no means pass away " Means one mans words are like a shield or like the key.
I have studied metaphors for some time. I thought you would be interested in the translation.

vedecguru wrote:A liitle Confused...so when is the 1000 years of peace with Jesus supposed to of happened?

I do not believe there is a such thing as the antichrist.

It is all explained in Philip Zimbardo's Book called "The Lucifer Effect". Genetic predisposition is the gun powder
and social "situational influences" is the flint. Hitler's parents were dysfunctional and possibly mentally ill.
Possibly lived in an orphanage the communities that Jews were forced into what was possibly an emotional displacement
of the abuse he got as a child and at the orphanage not a good place to grow social neurons.
The medical profession wasn't too bright back then one could get opiates at the drug store they are all
illegal today because they fry the brain. If one doesn't learn empathy as a child it is difficult to get it
later in life (the science of neurology ) It doesn't hurt to have one's brain tuned up. A tuned up non
diseased brain looks at God or the "God paradox" or as the astronomers call it "Higgs Bosson" His grades
in school were an indication that he may have had a neurological disorder as child could have been a sleep disorder
or some other learning disability. Easily diagnosed and corrected today. If the Catholic Church hadn't
burned scientists at the stake perhaps we may have had the tools to prevent such a catastrophe.
"The Time Paradox" another thought provoking concept. There was international, financial, social,
and medical dysfunctionalism which resulted into a "psycho-sociological black hole" it was genocide
back then and we still have it today in some countries. Personally I see religions as a soup of social
and ethical issues like the instruments in an aircraft- read one wrong and one is headed for catastrophe.
All of the guilt and obligation dialog over past history is essentially useless unless we challenge
our brains to excellence if necessary we may need stem cells and nanotechnology to keep for brains
from interacting in a social way that repeats history all over again.

Yes, Antichrist is indeed here and is still here I seen him in the spirit He is a fallen angel that the Lord God rejected at the war in heaven when the devil was kicked out of heaven. Antichrist looks like a goat with a goat beard and two horns. He will say to those who can hear him through Lord God ears '' You are a friend to me''quote Jesus said to his disciples in the Bible ''You are a friend to me '' copying the word of the son of God to confuse people. The antichrist is indeed alive and not some form or ideas people thought up. Like you said Hitler was the antichrist, He sure was, but push came to shove the devil killed his man Hitler and moved on to some other man or men. The work of Antichrist is to reject the commandments of Jesus '' Love the Lord God with all your heart, Love your neighbor as yourself'' create hate for the spirit of christ, the spirit of God, who is the move of God to forgive sin in the world, create divisions of strife and hate in man which reject the Lord God and create idols against the Lord God identity and purpose. Anitchrist is busy and will develop more people to rule in his authority who may have followers, like the word of God or god people may believe. The end will be defeat for all people who give the spirit of antichrist authority in his minor kingdom

The Antichrist is the Pope(he is a Nazi) and his minions are in the Family cult of C-Street in Washington DC. This is what the leader of C-Street Doug Coe is teaching the followers(US senators and congressmen and women):

Fear leads to anger.
Anger leads to hate.
Hatred leads to power.
Power leads to victory.
Let your anger flow through you.
Your hate will make you strong.
True power is only achieved through Christ by testing the limits of one's anger and passing through unscathed.
Manifest your power through self-righteousness and greed.
Power is the manifestation of Christ. Where there is no power, you must build power in his name.
Power channeled through Christ is unstoppable.
Those who manifest the power of Christ answer to no one.
The dark side of Christ offers unimaginable power.
The dark side is stronger than the light.
The weak deserve their fate.

Do not share this knowledge with the weak, for knowledge is also a manifestation of power.

The Anti-Christ will not come from the left wing but solely from the right, for even the devil can read scripture.

I only hope this Antichrist shows up and rids of us of all these "Christians"

The guest is very wrong, the pope is not the antichrist, and the antichrist will never get rid of all those christians for he is a defeated foe already before he even gets people to agree with antichrist. For Jesus protects all his people who listen to his words, and all his people who have prayer. The death and resurrection of the son of God brought a defeat of the devil and the antichrist, the war is already won, only battles need to be fought from time to time. Christians will be alive trillions and trillions of centuries from now. Antichrist will be removed from the earth for a short time and then completely removed from existences one thousand years from now.