Proof of Higher Intelligence

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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby Miracle » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:54 pm

Guest wrote:
It is the moons distance from Earth that allows us this stable environment, if it was closer the pull would be much greater making the tides much higher and life would be not be so stable on Earth.


ummm... yea......

how about if the moon was any closer it would be sucked into the planet by earth's gravity??? The Moon @ 1/3 the size of Earth is responsible for keeping the Earth in it's orbit / on it's axis?? How about.. the EARTH keeps the MOON in it's orbit???

Go get another D+ in grade 10 science


Thanks for ignoring the simple miracle that is the moon, without it, in it's exact position, there would be not life on Earth and you would not be able to be such an annoying person on this site!
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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby NoPlanetX » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:43 am

Ickes can of Tenants wrote:
NoPlanetX wrote:I really only need two things to explain that long, yet partially interesting post (And several additions). First, the human body most likely has so many defects because we have developed technology, and have not used several evolutionary traits, so we shall only become worse and worse at such tasks that are made easy by our technology until evolution decides to dump them completely. You may say that makes no sense, and if it weren't for this example, I'd agree. My left eye doesn't work as well as my right. Why is this? Because in my early life, I used my right eye more than my left, so my left eye got weaker due to a lack of use. I even had to wear an eye patch for a while to correct it. It's Science, my friend. Second, I can sum up the rest with two simple sentences. This system is most likely not the way it is so we can survive. More likely, we survive because the system is the way it is. By this I mean that it's more likely that we are in existence because the conditions are right, and not because of some sort of Greater Being specifically making the situation as it is. However, I will not deny the possibility of a Higher Power in general. But at least yours is one of the more plausible theories on this forum. Mostly because you don't pull any Bible crap. Sorry for that, Christians.


What a load of complete an utter tosh you spew out of your corrupt and filthy mouth. It will not be computers or technology that dumps us it will be Chris Martin and co that will see us off. But at least you are realizing that us humans are going to be dumped very soon.
And the higher power lives on Planet X for anyone that doesn't know.


Wha? I said that evolution got rid of these things, because technology allowed us to. Like if you have a wheelchair, you'll have little need for legs, or how you don't always have to use body language or your mouth to tell another person something. You missed my entire point. Or was that on purpose, to make me look bad? As if I even have to ask.

And once again, you all shouldn't think that just because things are perfect for our survival, there HAS to be some greater power that made it that way. It's much more likely that we only came into existence because the conditions were right. Why would this be more likely? In my opinion, because there's a vast Universe out there, much larger than our minds can comprehend. I find it hard to believe that our Earth is the only place life can be found. It'd be a pretty dull existence.
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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby pooka » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:03 am

2 things

One, your assumption about hair is false. Humans have more hair than many mammals. Most of this hair in small and fine. If you ever saw me, you would know about the hairiness of humans. Also, our ancestors living in Africa had more to worry about staying cool than keeping warm. Sweat Glands are found in most Mammals, if not all.

Two, we are not the only species who have sex outside of estrus. Our closest living primate relative, the bonobo, does as well.
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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby Oh Brother....2 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:47 pm

Empirical evidence that God and all the religions that have sprung up around the concept are fairy tales.....don't I wish it were that easy. It is logically impossible to actually prove a negative like that, unless of course you possessed the abilities that the purported being would actually have, like omnipotence, omni presence, etc.... In that case a simple look in the mirror would be sufficient to actually prove my premise false. What it really comes down is what are you going to believe.

A vast majority of the population of the earth is indoctrinated into some sort of religion at a very early age. To cast off that indoctrination can be very difficult as you are usually immersed in a community with like beliefs were these ideas are continually reinforced and to actually step outside your religion can have profound consequences on you and your standing within that community. That ties in with an old colloquialism where a high ranking church official in some religion was purported to say, "Give me a kid before he is 10 and he is mine for life." There is no hint of passing along any type of "truth" or "wisdom" in a comment like that, it is more or less a confession that children can be brought to believe just about anything as long as they are indoctrinated at an early enough age. Then the question becomes, are these same people able to take those beliefs later in life, hold them up against the universe and see if they make any sense. My experience with that question is that the answer is no. People who are taught to believe these "fairy tales" when they are young will continue to believe them no matter what evidence is brought to bear that some ideas they hold dear, just might not be true. It is impossible to prove them wrong, so they will hold on to anything.

As far as examples go..I can give a few, but I am not expert any given field, just spouting off what I read about various disciplines.

Early Astronomers were some of the first to start chipping away at the bedrock of some of the Bronze Age beliefs that are the basis of many of the worlds religions. The Bible and many other religious texts speak of the Earth as being the center of the Universe. It was a fixed object and the Sun, the moon, the other planets and stars were all thought to move about the sky. The early Astronomers using very simple tools proved that the Earth actually moves about the Sun and the Earth was just another planet. Then we found that our Galaxy was not unique and there a billions of other Galaxies out there. Now we are finding, as was obviously expected, that there are lots of other planets out there as well. So the Earth, as some sort of unique creation, has now become rather ordinary.

Cosmologists and Physicists have created elaborate theories of the how the universe has evolved from fractions of a second after the Big Bang to the present. Our understanding of these concepts is far from complete, but their is a mountain of evidence that the Universe is 13.7 Billion years old and that the structure we see around us has evolved naturally since the Big Bang. We no longer need a "fairy tale" to explain where the stars and the Earth came from, that all falls out of the scientific theories. All that is really left is to explain the initial impetus that started the whole thing. That still lies well beyond the understanding of modern science...but they are working on it. To say that this "fairy tale" is responsible for that impetus is all well and good since we have no better explanation, but what have we reduced the "creator" to in this case? '

The Sun no longer needs a creator as it is thought to have coalesced out of a Hydrogen cloud like all the other bezillion stars in the universe. The Earth itself no longer needs a "creator" either it simply coalesced with all the other planets around the young sun. So not only do we not necessarily hold a special place in the Universe, we also are not necessarily part of any "special" creation.

Paleontologists and Biologists have shown over the past hundred years or so that life on this planet arose from simple single cell organisms. Through evolution these forms became more complex and have ultimately led to intelligent life. It has been shown that the building blocks of the simple single celled organisms exists in space and could have been brought to the earth in many different ways. Research is ongoing as to how this life arose and how evolution has shaped the progression of species. Now we no longer need a "creator" for life either.

Lastly, the study of the human mind and the brain is showing that they are really one in the same. The concept of there being some sort of supernatural "soul" that controls the physical body simply doesn't make a lot of sense in light of many of the findings we have. The study of ancient cultures and other primates have shown us how simple morals can be derived without the need for supernatural guidance. Etc, etc, etc......None of what I have said is in any way new and the list could go on forever.

The religious will look at the above and simply state the obvious. None of it proves that "God" does not exist. However, all the major religions have long standing dogmas about all the things I talked about above and have been retreating on many fronts for centuries trying to reconcile their beliefs with what scientists are discovering every day. At some point it just comes down to, what are you going to believe.
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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby Hair » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:47 pm

pooka wrote:2 things

One, your assumption about hair is false. Humans have more hair than many mammals. Most of this hair in small and fine. If you ever saw me, you would know about the hairiness of humans. Also, our ancestors living in Africa had more to worry about staying cool than keeping warm. Sweat Glands are found in most Mammals, if not all.

Two, we are not the only species who have sex outside of estrus. Our closest living primate relative, the bonobo, does as well.


We have hair, sure we do, very fine tiny hair just like the sphinx cat and the hairless dogs have hair but it doesn't keep them warm, just like ours doesn't and that is the whole point of being a mammal, to have a covering to keep in your heat!!! All warm blooded creatures have a covering to keep in their heat including birds who have feathers. Don't bring up that silly Africa stuff, if coming from a hot climate made any sense, then why do all mammals and birds who come from there, all have a covering to keep them warm???? None other is naked!!! Do you look in the mirror in the morning, your naked!!!!
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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby Evolution is a bunk theory » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:00 am

Oh Brother....2 wrote:

Paleontologists and Biologists have shown over the past hundred years or so that life on this planet arose from simple single cell organisms. Through evolution these forms became more complex and have ultimately led to intelligent life. It has been shown that the building blocks of the simple single celled organisms exists in space and could have been brought to the earth in many different ways. Research is ongoing as to how this life arose and how evolution has shaped the progression of species. Now we no longer need a "creator" for life either.



You need to throw out your silly school education evolution does not exist and never has. Darwin was wrong. Lucy is not the missing link, she was proved a fraud ages ago, the promised missing link has never been found.

Do you understand even the rudiments of genetics? Do you know what an allele is and why a change in allele is not evolution. I ask because Gregor Mendel, a Catholic priest, worked with allele's even though he did not call them such and his research proved that hypothesis of gradual change was false. Mr. Dawkins is biased and his bias leads him astray from his pursuit of truth.

In Mr. Mendel's research he showed that the change in one allele can determine whether a pea plant is tall or short which showed that the pea plant did not gradually evolve a new height, as Darwin proposed, but rather had a sudden change when a new allele developed. Mr. Mendel's research occurred in the 19th Century and yet scientists foolishly clung, and some still cling, to Mr. Darwin's outdated hypothesis long after. I believe they still teach it in public schools.
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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby Michael » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:37 am

This video may help.



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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby Open your eyes » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:59 pm

Michael wrote:This video may help.



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Thanks Micheal that was great.
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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby Michael » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:57 am

That was actually the wrong video, this is the one. I would suggest that all of the Science Experts and others seeking answers watch all of the videos on this site. (brain-mind.com)It is very enlightening. We are in a time when myth and fantasy, theology and religion, science and science fiction will become one. Yes there is higher intelligence. Yes humans are ascending as a species. The human genome has a little over 90% of its genes switched in the off position. The power of the Trinity is flipping switches in many of you.

Read THE BOOK, seek answers, search the internet seek knowledge. Yeshua/Jesus has given you many clues, you must seek knowledge and purify your body, heart, mind and soul only then can you accept and handle such awesome perception and power. Yeshua told you that only wise men will understand THE BOOK and only in these times. Are you not wise?

Do you want to evolve ? Do you like to travel ? Do you like to go really fast ?Would you like to see new worlds? In the grandest style with exuberance and no worries ? Do you want to know all about the Universe? Then just do it ! Sounds like science fiction right , wrong this is all real! All of it!

This a power that many on this planet cannot understand. because you have been deceived/lied to. One must understand there are no secrets and the fallen ones/Nephilum/ Annunaki still have powers on this planet. They can easily manipulate the weak, they are in a higher state of awareness then the Earth's non believer's and some of the science experts of this forum. They take power from them. They are telepathic and have manipulated this species in many ways for many millineum. Not just all the wars, death, misery, and injustice. The food chain/drugs recreational and most medicinal drugs, alcohol , tobacco all designed to inflict misery, block perception and contribute to greedy evil cohort descendants that control you, Illuminati. A few of you noticed some differences in the Moon's behavior, there has been unusual tidal movements, care to guess at that one.

They have manipulated the human genome on this planet, are using HAARP to manipulate weather, using electronic mind control devices and are seeding the atmosphere for the arrival of their king on Nibiru /Wormwood/dark star. Yes they are on the moon and Mars and are cohorting with their descendants on earth to weaponize space and declare war on The Prime Creator, God Almighty himself. If you haven't heard the trumpets hit rewind educate yourself.

Yeshua/Jesus Christ Master of the Light sends his Love . He hears your prayers, he is here. There is an incredible fleet of Merkabah Light ships surrounding the planet protecting the worthy and the Earth. Become enlightened as many have.

Don't take my word for it . You can see them through military grade gen 3 night vision glasses or search the internet, the you tube has a few good shots. Verify for yourself, you know how to search the internet. Don't take my word for anything, verify. The tools are all here, THE BOOK and the internet.

Pray to him, praying increases your perception/telepathic abilities, there is tribulation to come, you need his guidance, the light will protect those who are wise, loving, benevolent and worthy and above all things you most have Love for God Almighty, yourself and your neighbors. Yeshua/Jesus is the Son of The Prime Creator, God Almighty, he hears all and is unlocking codes for the ascension. Praise him as he deserves your Love and Praise.

With Love Michael

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Re: Proof of Higher Intelligence

Unread postby Guest » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:32 pm

Excellent thread and awesome posts from many of you.

I read the whole thing, ending with Michael's very interesting posts, not that the others lack of anything.

Michael wrote:You can see them through military grade gen 3 night vision glasses ...


Could you please explain this a bit? If I buy a gen 3 night vision pair of binoculars , I can see the Merkabah light ships ?

Btw, there's no sarcasm on the above question.Just curiosity.
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