And you know God personally.

moshen; what planet are you from dude? what a bunch of hog wash you just spewed out of your mouth, man. Your dumb leader doesn't need a nuke because he has said a hundred times he will use it to wipe Israel off the map, he is a crazy man and anyone that follows him is crazy also. Israel won't let Iran get the nuke, and the USA will back them up 100% and there is nothing Iran can do about it, nothing and who are you to talk about God, it is obvious you don't know him and never will. and as far as the Torah I'll take it over the koran or how ever you spell it any day of the week at least it doesn't tell you to kill anybody that isn't a muslim.

In reply to moshen

1. You are being racist in religion.
2. Either only one god/group of gods exist. Or no god. At all. Every single god in the world are made up by paranoid people.
3. We do not want a nuclear war.
4. Holocaust will not happen because it makes no sense now and will not help stopping a war by murdering children.
5. Be more polite. Don't be snobbish.
6. What is "Ha?" ? It is not funny. This topic isn't about humor.

BW,
Eplisa.J

answer to mcamp 2011:im sorry if i was impolite.plz accept my appologize.but.....
1.why dont u understand that we do not want nuke or atomic bombs.why should we want these things?yeah our president(not leader)told the sentence that u mentioned.it does not mean im agree with that.we dont want war.we had for 8 years.its enough for us.
2.i talk about god according to torah and quran.see,first waht is your religion?have u ever read torah?or quran?read them and see the adjectives of god.i mean for example the power,knowledge and these things.remember what i said about torah i mean the story of jacob?how can this god be powerful?but in quran said:the almighty god.no one can fight him.again in quran said:there is no power and will except the great god.so it means that humans have no power.i didnt say that i know him.of course i dont.but i talk about how these books explain god.
3.i told every one that if some body have question ask me.see my friend,we do not have the permission to fight and kill people from other religions till the time that they dont start fight against us.i mean in the society,there r muslims,christians,jews and etc.we accept other beliefs and thoughts.we love other prophets i mean for example mouses and christ,solomon and others.even more than u.BUT quran said:god does not forbid u for being kind to people whom does not fight u for your religion or the people that make u go out of your land.
so according to upper sentence,is it correct that u said about our religion?i mean that u said that god told us to kill who ever is not muslim.no my friend.we respect other beliefs and we r not terrorists.i swear to god that muslims wont kill other religion followers because of their religion.these terrorist attacks which u see are suiciders that are vahhabi(mostly) or no maybe they r muslim but have been brain washed.plz read holy quran and again if u have questions ill be glad to answer.thank u.

Eplisa wrote:In reply to moshen

1. You are being racist in religion.
2. Either only one god/group of gods exist. Or no god. At all. Every single god in the world are made up by paranoid people.
3. We do not want a nuclear war.
4. Holocaust will not happen because it makes no sense now and will not help stopping a war by murdering children.
5. Be more polite. Don't be snobbish.
6. What is "Ha?" ? It is not funny. This topic isn't about humor.

BW,
Eplisa.J

1.im not racist.why i am so?if i was impolite im sorry but im not racist.
2.i dont know what to say but consider this situation:there is 2 possibilities:a.there is a god and other world,hell and heaven.if i do exactly as i been told(by quran)i shall go to heaven.but u to hell that even think god is sth human maid.(sorry for u)b.there is no god or hell and heaven.after death there is nothing.in this situation,i or other people from other religions do not loose anything in this world.of course we do as our religion told us.we enjoy life but in a correct way.but dont u think the life which is no god or other world in it,is empty of hope?is empty of the eager that if u do sth good god will give u award or if u do sth bad god will punish u(of course god is mercifull acoording to quran)so u dont do sth bad.in a life that god is considered in evey moment,how can the person become tired of wotking?helping others?struggling problems?fight against illnesses or any kind of problem u think?how can this person do sth that make god sad?the god that love his creatures more than a mother love her child.did u ever think about it?i suggest u to search about religions and read holy books(quran,bible and torah)ask if u had problems and think what will happen if u die and see that there is a god and u did nothing to make him happy,or better say,to go to heaven.
3.we dont want it either.
4.i didnt under stand this sentence,i mean ididnt get what u wanted to say me.sorry.
5.ok ill try to be.but i have a question.why when other peoples in this topic and say dirty words to muslims,iranians and etc,no one tell these guys to be polite.but when a muslim say sth,when an iranian say sth which is considered impolitness,every body just come to topic and say me to be polite.why it is so?i am human being like u!what is the difference between me and u?why every body can say anything he/she want to us but when we answer those people suddenly comment that we have to be polite!it is not fair.
6.u r correct it is not a funny topic.but believe me the name it self is funny.because nor iranians neither isreal or american people want this war.

Israel will attack Iran within two months of this posting with the help of the u.s.&great Britain !

The geographical, political and theocratic fact is that Israel is a small country surrounded by enemies. Now how does one keep peace effectively with countries who are not prepared to debate objectively using reason and calm intellectual discussion, with due respect to listen attentively to the other side, and then and only then, as civilised folk do, make their own reply without emotional polemic, thus reaching a platform for mutual respect and positive discourse.

If educated leaders of States cling like limpets to their ideologies they have received from childhood, and remain as children unable to stand back and view such things in context, with unbiased academic detachment and objectivity, then no ground will be made and as is now, there is stalemate. Blame Israel if you wish but I would say, try and imagine what it is like to be Israel, a country who have a right to exist, yet clearly its very existence is resented by its neighbours.

There are always two sides in a quarrel and an action usually gathers a reaction, for better or for worse. There should have been peace in that region long ago. Sadly, the default position of the human race tends toward a desire to prolong enmity where instead, peace and friendship should reign.

The most precious jewel of Wisdom is simply to be great enough to forgive constantly each day and to keep endeavouring to love everyone without exception, knowing that we ourselves are most in need of forgiveness!

john waltz wrote:Israel will attack Iran within two months of this posting with the help of the u.s.&great Britain !

excuse me friend but may be you have forgot some things:
1.hezb-o-allah is near isreal and they are shia muslims and have close relations with iran.they are our muslim brothers.if just a bullet from isreal come to iran,i dont guarantee a milimeter of isreal will be safe from our friends.i know isreal want it seriously to start a war against iran.but i have questions and i want you to think about them.a)why isreal really want this war against us?what do we have or better say what kind of believe we have that bothers isreal governments?b)who pay for this war?the boys and girls in the army are from where?is one from isreal?no NEVER.us and uk people paying for the this war.they r human beings.why you r so eager to kill these people?why?
2.i dont think any american or biritish mother/father want her/his son/daughter dead with the bullets in head.and of course no iranian mother wants to see her dear child on the hands of the people in the war zone or street.plz for the god sake search in the history,books and... to see why isreal want this war against iran.if u didnt find out,ask me.i`ll be glad to tell u.

Eplisa wrote:In reply to moshen

1. You are being racist in religion.
2. Either only one god/group of gods exist. Or no god. At all. Every single god in the world are made up by paranoid people.
3. We do not want a nuclear war.
4. Holocaust will not happen because it makes no sense now and will not help stopping a war by murdering children.
5. Be more polite. Don't be snobbish.
6. What is "Ha?" ? It is not funny. This topic isn't about humor.

BW,
Eplisa.J

mohsen wrote:1.im not racist.why i am so?if i was impolite im sorry but im not racist.

Hi Mohsen,

You seem sincere in your responses, even if a bit uninformed. And I do agree, I did not read anything in your responses that would have labeled you as a racist or of being impolite. Moving on here....

2.i dont know what to say but consider this situation:there is 2 possibilities:a.there is a god and other world,hell and heaven.if i do exactly as i been told(by quran)i shall go to heaven.but u to hell that even think god is sth human maid.(sorry for u)

Why are you sorry for another of faith if their faith differs from yours? While I do respect individual faith, I have no respect for anyone who believes they have all the right answers in regards to a god, to the exclusion of all others. If you have faith, fine, follow it in accordance with your own dictates (or that of your Imam's). But you also need to extend the same courtesy to those with a differing faith. Besides, one should not throw stones when they live in a glass house.

b.there is no god or hell and heaven.after death there is nothing.in this situation,i or other people from other religions do not loose anything in this world.of course we do as our religion told us.we enjoy life but in a correct way.

What is the correct way to live? Who can claim to have the one and only answer? With all due respect, this is the arrogance of all religions, not just Islam. There is no proof that a god, a heaven or a hell exists and to believe otherwise must be a matter of personal faith, not by the dictates of any other. As for what you would lose, you lose your individuality, free will and the ability to think for yourself in regards to spiritual matters. You may enjoy your life but you are not living if you refuse to do things or live out of fear of punishment by a god that may not exist.

but dont u think the life which is no god or other world in it,is empty of hope?

No! One who lives their life with no fear of a god is living a full life in accordance with their own dictates.

is empty of the eager that if u do sth good god will give u award or if u do sth bad god will punish u(of course god is mercifull acoording to quran)so u dont do sth bad.

So what you're saying is we need to live our lives in fear of God? We need to fear the consequences of our actions? Sorry but my opinion differs.

in a life that god is considered in evey moment,how can the person become tired of wotking?helping others?struggling problems?fight against illnesses or any kind of problem u think?how can this person do sth that make god sad?

And what makes you believe an atheist does not have similar qualities? Again, this is the arrogance of religion.

the god that love his creatures more than a mother love her child.did u ever think about it?

I think about it all the time! And in my mind, the Abrahamic God of the Torah, Bible and Qur'an does not exist. Ask yourself, why would a God who loves you punish you? Granted, the Qur'an believes that all will eventually return to God, unlike the Christian concept of an eternity in hell. But the fact remains that the Abrahamic God, if it exists, is the most blood thirsty schizophrenic deity of all time. Any god that exhorts its followers to kill in its name is a false god.

i suggest u to search about religions and read holy books(quran,bible and torah)ask if u had problems and think what will happen if u die and see that there is a god and u did nothing to make him happy,or better say,to go to heaven.

While I'm a firm believer in God and believe in an afterlife (for all people, not just believers), I have no belief that God has human emotions or condemns anyone for any reason. Allow me to ask, do you believe God is omniscient, in that He knows ALL including past, present and the future? If so then God knows the life of all people before they are born. If God knows before a person is born, why allow them to be born if they are destined for a hell? Why not just bypass physical existence and go straight to hell? This is a contradiction that no religion has been able to explain away.

5.ok ill try to be.but i have a question.why when other peoples in this topic and say dirty words to muslims,iranians and etc,no one tell these guys to be polite.but when a muslim say sth,when an iranian say sth which is considered impolitness,every body just come to topic and say me to be polite.why it is so?i am human being like u!what is the difference between me and u?why every body can say anything he/she want to us but when we answer those people suddenly comment that we have to be polite!it is not fair.

I'm in complete agreement with you on this with one exception, those who cross the line are held accountable for their words, regardless their skin color, nationality or religion. But there are far too many posts on this forum to respond to them all. So some of us will wait until someone goes way over board before putting them in their place. And in all honesty I have read very few comments in this thread that justify a good lambasting. Nor do I believe you deserved one either.

6.u r correct it is not a funny topic.but believe me the name it self is funny.because nor iranians neither isreal or american people want this war.

You're right, no one wants war. Or at least not those that I know. But I do believe you are a bit misinformed regarding your own government and their desire for nuclear weapons. One of the advantages of living outside of Iran is that we get to hear about all the crazy stuff your religious and political leaders do and say. Unlike those who live in Iran who only hear what their government wants them to hear. And I say this with the utmost respect because I know the Iranian people are good people. But I do have a complete distaste for the Republican Guard and your religious leaders with the exception of moderates such as Rafsanjani. I also fully support the Iranian peoples desire for freedom and democracy and hope I see the fall of the Iranian theocracy in my time. Anyway, I had the good fortune of going to an electronics school with many Iranian sailors during my time in the US Navy. This was during the time of the Shah when the USA was training Iranian sailors to man some ships we were going to sell Iran, before the Islamic revolution, that is. And with the exception of very few devout Muslims who wanted nothing to do with American life and culture, the Iranians I met and befriended were very good people and I was proud to call them friend. So do not believe that many who object to the saber rattling of your leaders believe the same of the Iranian people, because they do not. Or at least I do not.

Before closing I respectfully request that you retract your statement about their being no Jewish Holocaust, because it is a fact of history and the evidence exists for all to read, including Ahmadinejad. Or did I misinterpret the intent of your comment?

Peace.

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where do you think all the weopons of mass destruction went when the us invaded iraq . They went to iran you can bet moeny on it. Russia supplies weopons to them aswell. Isreal has cause to be concerned now if iran was our next door neighbor in the us what do you suppose we would do then? I think this is the perfect recipe for a third world war. Maybe iran needs to be taught a lesson. Unfortunately the civilians will pay the price too.