2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

There are numerous end of the world predictions for the year 2012. Famous psychics, computer programs, and ancient societies have all predicted the end of the world in 2012.
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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby Guest » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:16 pm

Sure is...... what?
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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby s » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:34 pm

End of the world is not a new thing. It happens all the time. There is a continuous process of converting atomic particles into matter and matter into atomic particles. During this process only space is created and destroyed. Matter neither be created nor be destroyed. There is no question of creation. Space is being created even at this moment that is we call expanding universe. Space is being destroyed only in black holes when matter gets converted into atomic particles. There is now law stating that "Space neither be created nor be destroyed".
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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby ddd » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:36 am

s wrote:End of the world is not a new thing. It happens all the time. There is a continuous process of converting atomic particles into matter and matter into atomic particles. During this process only space is created and destroyed. Matter neither be created nor be destroyed. There is no question of creation. Space is being created even at this moment that is we call expanding universe. Space is being destroyed only in black holes when matter gets converted into atomic particles. There is now law stating that "Space neither be created nor be destroyed".


Um, matter is atomic particles s. ;)
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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby ddd » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:41 am

s wrote:End of the world is not a new thing. It happens all the time. There is a continuous process of converting atomic particles into matter and matter into atomic particles. During this process only space is created and destroyed. Matter neither be created nor be destroyed. There is no question of creation. Space is being created even at this moment that is we call expanding universe. Space is being destroyed only in black holes when matter gets converted into atomic particles. There is now law stating that "Space neither be created nor be destroyed".


Forget that last, pardon me. Just the way you phrased it. My bad.

Couple of questions though,

That law, what is it called? I know the first law of thermodynamics says that energy can't be created or destroyed, only change its form, say to and from matter. The space law you quoted also came right after you said that space is being created right now. And particles, id imagine, would as well be broken down to join the singularity of a black hole. I heard a while back that Stephen Hawking did a turn around, saying that black holes need not violate conservation of energy, instead radiating it back into space. So perhaps nothing is truly destroyed inside them.

The only other question is, what is your point here?
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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby s » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:47 pm

Please read "There is no law stating that "Space neither be created nor be destroyed".
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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby ddd » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:53 am

I did read s. But that clears some of the confusion.

s wrote: There is now law stating that "Space neither be created nor be destroyed".


At any rate, i ask again, what was your point? is the earth going to be broken down into atomic particles in 3 years? Is this about the sun encountering the black hole again s?
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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby mjoj » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:52 pm

it won't happen because that's what they said about 2000 and nothing happened. so if you really think it's real okay then think of it but your crazy at the same time.
Goodbar wrote:Here is the conspiracy theory.

Thanks to Stephen Hawking we now know that a black hole exists in the centre of our galaxy, the Milky Way. On December 13th 2012 the Earth will come in to perfect alignment between the sun and the centre of the galaxy, this much is true. This alignment will cause the earth to be affected by additional gravity, this is also true. So the theory goes that the additional gravity created by the alignment will knock the earth out of it's orbit, and possibly into the path of a comet BOOM!! There you have your end of days theory.

However, there is one teeny weenie point that seems to have been overlooked by the people who propound this theory, well, er, two points actually".

1: The additional gravity created by the alignment is teeny weenie. It's minuscule on the cosmic scale and would barely register.

2: This alignment that's supposed to send us spinning out of control, happens EVERY December 21st. It happened last year in 2008, it also happened a couple of months after the battle of Hastings in 1066, and again in 1067. It will happen again this year on December 21st 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012, 13, 14, 15 and so on.

So!! - on December 21st 2012 you can sleep easy, you WILL SEE December 22nd and go on to have a nice Xmas. :D

I'm sorry to be a kill joy to the masses who love this theory. In fact I'm so sorry that I'm prepared to make amends. If you REALLY AND TRULY want something to worry about, keep in mind April 13th 2036 this is when Comet Apophys REALLY COULD slam in to the Earth.

We'll also have SEVEN years to contemplate our impending doom. The Comet will pass us in 2029, so close that it will dip below our orbiting communication satellites. From that passing in 2009, astrophysicist's will be able to calculate if it's going to hit us in 2036.

Take a look at this clip by Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson - all is explained enjoy!!

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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby Guest » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:06 pm

Yes ddd. I think It is going to be a big danger to our planet as well as to our Sun. I think when our Solar system was near the bottom of the Galactic disk at that time Earth was in ICE AGE and now it it moving above the Galactic equator there by melting the north ice cap. I do not think this planet would remain habitable for long. I was trying to mention that every thing is either a matter or atomic particle and nothing else and also there is a continuous cycle of construction and destruction. We human beings worry too much about our lives and that is why we get scared about "2012 End of world". Personally I started believing in the "End of world" when Earth's climate started changing rapidly. Even I do not think that green gases caused by human activities are totally responsible for that. Scientists are trying to find and I am not denying they would ultimately find major things responsible for climate changes. But I think time is running out.
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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby s » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:37 pm

ddd, I wrote in hurry the previous article. Just today I read the news regarding melting of north ice cap within 10 years. That indicated that the Earth is getting more than normal the Energy from the Sun or the Galaxy. What if we find the way to ship that excess energy beyond the Earth. I know it is just imagination but If we think that every single person or a car or a house or a thing exposed in open environment started wearing a solar panel hat or a device which stores the solar energy ( solar cell,batteries etc..) and then dump that excess stored energy out side the earth. Any way it is a fact that our fossil resources are limited so we need to replace that energy with this stored energy. The time has come for excess energy situation. Melting of an ice globally triggers the rise in the sea level up to 200 feet. We need to stop that from happening. I think we need to make the Moon our dumping ground. I know it is expensive but life is precious. We have life on planet Earth just by accident and we need to preserve it.
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Re: 2012 End of World & PROOF ITS NOT TRUE!!!

Postby guest123 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:55 am

mjoj wrote:1: The additional gravity created by the alignment is teeny weenie. It's minuscule on the cosmic scale and would barely register.

2: This alignment that's supposed to send us spinning out of control, happens EVERY December 21st. It happened last year in 2008, it also happened a couple of months after the battle of Hastings in 1066, and again in 1067. It will happen again this year on December 21st 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012, 13, 14, 15 and so on.


I think every alignment is different. It all depends upon the position of the Sun in the Galactic disk and the very center of the Galaxy. The sun is not at the same spot on every Dec 21. It is going up. And this alignment should not be mere geometrical but the alignment of their very centers. If distance varies from 25000 light years to 30000 light years then Gravitational force varies by 25% . It's not minuscule but huge.
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